talis_kimberley ([info]talis_kimberley) wrote,
@ 2007-10-30 16:50:00
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On songwriting: a pocketful of seeds.

It seems my songwriting has woken up again - it's been a year and more, and there have been reasons, and it's welcome back. I shall now proceed to burble about what this means and how it works (in my head, anyway). 

It usually starts with a seed - a phrase, something misread, something seen, perhaps a juxtaposition, sometimes something you think somebody is going to say before the conversation takes a left turn and you're left with the ghost of a conversation... whatever it is, it shines like a dropped ring on the pavement. I pick it up and put it in my pocket. Every so often I take it out and look at it, and sooner or later, if it's viable, it'll sprout.

This is the best part, for me. This is the sweetest combination of anticipation and joy and blind inspiration. It's a heady mix. Sometimes, just occasionally, it grows all the way up into a song while I just hold it in my hands and breathe. More often, and this is as it should be, it grows for a bit and then slows, and then I need to shape it by hand the rest of the way. This part is fun, too, because it's like solving a puzzle; somewhere in there is the shape of the song, and it's my job to reveal it.

It isn't just the words, after all, and it isn't just the music, either. The form matters, and so does the voice, and the language-set, and the rhythm, and the rhyme structure or lack of it, and the angle.

I'm playing with angle right now. I've got a little sprouting thing of a song in my pocket, and it's just at the point where it wants me to take over and shape it the rest of the way.

I haven't decided the angle yet, not quite. It won't be 'There is a XXX' , because I usually prefer something a little more oblique. I've toyed with 'I am the XXX' and also with 'There was a XXX but there isn't anymore...' '...because of me...' , likewise 'There is a XXX but I didn't know it when I met it and I'm sorry now' and 'There is a XXX and it's what I become'. Then there's 'I wish I were like the XXX' and 'There is no XXX but I wish there were'.

You see? There are angles all the way round the subject, in at least three dimensions. Any of them may make a decent song. One of them will prove best for the subject in hand. Making decisions along the way and eliminating the less-good versions of it are how we get there.

Suddenly there are so many things to write about... a pocketful of seeds is a fine thing to have on a late October day.




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[info]bardling
2007-10-30 06:13 pm UTC (link)
Ok, and this is why you're a bard, and I'm just a singer/musician... :)
...this is lovely to read and sounds like a difficult but wonderful skill to have. I'm glad you've found your pocketful of seeds with some sprouting.

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[info]talis_kimberley
2007-10-31 06:31 pm UTC (link)
Kisses to you. Thank you.

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[info]allisona
2007-10-30 07:32 pm UTC (link)
That's a beautiful description of songwriting. Thank you! It sounds like a song in itself.

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[info]talis_kimberley
2007-10-31 06:31 pm UTC (link)
Writing songs about writing songs? Hmmm... :)

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[info]batyatoon
2007-10-30 11:26 pm UTC (link)
I love that image. A pocketful of seeds.

May I make an icon with it?

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[info]talis_kimberley
2007-10-31 06:32 pm UTC (link)
Absolutely please do.

Glad you like it!

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[info]batyatoon
2007-11-02 08:35 pm UTC (link)
This is my first attempt:



I may fiddle with it some more, and/or with other images I found, but in the meantime would you like it?

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[info]talis_kimberley
2007-11-08 03:23 pm UTC (link)
Ooh! That's very nice indeed. I would, too! Thank you!

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[info]fleetfootmike
2007-10-31 01:31 pm UTC (link)
there's also:

"burble burble visual imagery burble.
burble emotion burble...."

. o O ( Hrm. What's this about... Oh! )

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[info]talis_kimberley
2007-10-31 06:34 pm UTC (link)
Oh, yes, that's always a good one...

Also, it's funny how many songs start with a visual scene-setting - the season, time of day, what the sky was doing... then you 'pan out' and see - something! Don't know what it is, but I'll write about it!

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[info]phillip2637
2007-11-01 05:11 pm UTC (link)
Thank you. (I've been teaching myself about songwriting these past couple of years and appreciate others' insights.)

If I understand your use of 'angle', I had an experience earlier this year that time can be one of those. A song idea that I liked sat quietly in my notebook for about 18 months. One day I realized that it shouldn't be set during a particular event, but rather a few hours later. At that point the struggle ended and it became just a process of writing it down.

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[info]talis_kimberley
2007-11-02 04:59 pm UTC (link)
That's it precisely. It's the difference between knowing what the story is... and deciding where to put the listener in relation to it, spatialyl, temporally and emotionally.

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[info]talis_kimberley
2007-11-02 05:05 pm UTC (link)
Um, that's 'spatially'. What I typed looks like the name of a chemical compound for a spatula.

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